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T Party vs OWS Arrests by BluePhoenixx T Party vs OWS Arrests by BluePhoenixx
I think the picture says it all.. After only 4 weeks OWS has managed to rack up almost 1000 arrests. The Tea Party has been around for 2 years and 8 months, that's 32 times longer than OWS, and not a single arrest. And the lame stream media wants to say that conservatives are the bad guys? hahaha
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FrankMegarry Featured By Owner Aug 9, 2014
Are you thick? Maybe because police are scumbags and serve the bourgeoisie? 
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BluePhoenixx Featured By Owner Aug 17, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
lol
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ryu238 Featured By Owner Aug 16, 2013
No but there was violence at various times and not just at rallies
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BluePhoenixx Featured By Owner Aug 17, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
So now you're moving the goal back because your original comment was absolutely and undeniably ridiculous. I'm sorry, but any credibility you think you have has been shot to hell because of your last performance.

But the fact of the matter is, again, you don't care about facts. You will believe anything you see that goes with this warped world view in your head... So much so, you don't even vet your own sources. Again, you're a fool and I don't have time for fools.
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BluePhoenixx Featured By Owner Aug 16, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Lol did you even read the first link? You're going to say that I was lying and offer links you obviously didn't even read as proof?... you've got to be kidding me. 

The second link was to a story posted about some crazy person with no evidence that he had anything to do with the tea party. Not only that, it was posted by a site that called "Americans Against the Tea Party"... Do I need to teach you how to vet your sources? Just because the headline says it's a Tea Party guy (probably the only thing you read) that doesn't mean that he actually is a member of the Tea Party. Hell, I'd trust MSNBC over this pile of garbage. And finally, even if he was a Tea Party guy, this is a story from this year, I created this picture back in 2011. Of course the numbers are going to be off now.

Your third link is about a non-Tea Party man being arrested at a Tea Party rally after becoming belligerent when he was asked to leave... Not surprised that you didn't read this one too.

Your last link 1: was an arrest that has nothing to do with a Tea Party event. Politico, a liberal organization of course is going to point out the man's political ideology if he's a conservative. How much higher would the arrest numbers for the Occupy loons be if we included all of their arrests that have nothing to do with the protest? Don't be stupid. And 2: again, this is something that happened AFTER I made this picture. So again, you have no point.

This is why you are a liberal. You are too lazy to learn the truth, rather, you try to find "facts" that support your ideology. This isn't a lie, you're just a fool. Now run along.

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ManOfSecrets Featured By Owner Apr 1, 2013
If you aren't getting arrested then you're aren't doing a good job.
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BluePhoenixx Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
...or you're just not breaking the law. I assume you think that breaking the law, shitting on vendors, and abusing/raping your fellow protesters is necessary. We've got a genius over here!
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KidSapiens Featured By Owner Feb 26, 2013
You mean the same movement that does NOTHING to distance itself from people who said that "[my] people were happier under slavery"?

THAT movement?

THOSE conservatives?

No. I am sorry, but there's being for small government, and then there's associating with people like that.
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BluePhoenixx Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
That's because it's a ridiculous statement made by some moron that doesn't represent any of them. If it was an official statement they made, then you would have something to bitch about. Does everything everyone has said in whichever group you associate with represent you and your ideals? I doubt it.

If you are stupid enough and enough of a sheep to go along with the narrative that the Tea Party is racist, there's no helping you anyways. All that proves is that you don't think for yourself. So keep hanging on to that kind of ignorance and live in your little bubble.

Finally, do you think that your group hasn't said and done their fair share of racist things? If you don't think so, wake up and educate yourself.
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KidSapiens Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2013
Oh trust me. I know there are plenty of racist blacks. Heck, there are blacks who fought for the Confederacy and were in the KKK! I know that. It still doesn't make it right to not say ANYTHING to shut someone down when they say things like that guy said.

I'm not decrying the Tea Party for "saying" anything: I'm saying they should have made it CLEAR that they wouldn't endorse such statements. Instead, they sat back and said nothing.

Also, notice that you called me stupid. I never called you stupid. This is an ad hominem attack, and an egregiously false one at that! That, as you should know, is a logical fallacy.
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BluePhoenixx Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
You say that you want them to make it clear that they don't endorse that kind of talk. To me, it is clear. I don't need to sit around wondering why they haven't wasted their time on making a further association with that nut job. That's the difference between conservatives and liberals; conservatives are trying to fix the real problems while liberals are trying to get everyone to like them.

Why do you think Obama can't get his shit together and actually be the president for once, make some hard decisions and govern? Why do you think he spends all of his time bitching about Republicans not doing what he wants them to do and running around like chicken little saying "the sky is falling!" He's campaigns from one tragedy to the next trying desperately to be popular rather than at least trying to fix the mess that BOTH parties are responsible for.

"Also, notice that you called me stupid."

Notice that I said, "IF you are stupid enough..." So if the shoe fits, and you think that the Tea Party is a racist organization like MSNBC wants you to think, then you are stupid. But no, I didn't call you stupid, actually I was implying that I think you are smart enough to know better.

"That, as you should know, is a logical fallacy."

Except you were twisting my words. So no, it wasn't a logical fallacy. But would you like me to innumerate all of the logical fallacies in your first post? Believe me, there are many.

The bottom line is that not everything has to be reacted to. If you were honest in your judgements and fair, you would also be disassociating yourself from the liberals (I assume you are a liberal since 98% of the voting black population is). They hardly ever address their own misgivings and racist actions. Instead, they try to take the heat off of their own egregiously racist past and point at the Republicans and say that they are the racists even though every civil rights case was passed because of Republicans with a higher % majority than the Democrats. Now that they know that they were on the wrong side of history, they are magically forgetting that they were the worst offenders and that they even founded the KKK.
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KidSapiens Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2013
*considers the argument for a moment*

...hm. While you may raise several good points, I must confess that the issue, at this time, is still too emotionally charged for me to respond in a proper manner.

Maybe I'll be back one day, but until then, consider this, at the very least, a draw.

On another note, I like sheep- they're soft and fluffy and adorable.
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BluePhoenixx Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
You probably should be emotionally charged because of that statement, in all honesty. However, consider aiming that hostility towards the moron who said it, not the organization he doesn't represent in any way shape or form.

Ah yes, sheep are nice. Sheeple, on the other hand...
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frankteller Featured By Owner Jun 29, 2012
So what if OWS protestors have gotten arrested? So did Rosa Parks and Martin Luther King, Jr. Are you against them, too?
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BluePhoenixx Featured By Owner Jul 2, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
The difference is that Rosa Parks didn't get arrested for shitting on the bus, just sitting. See what I did there?

If you can't see the difference between what MLKjr and Rosa Parks got arrested for and what the OWS people are being arrested for, you're a moron. If you are going to pretend to be smart, you should probably educate yourself first.
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PurplePhoneixStar Featured By Owner Jun 29, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Yet conservatives paint Occupy as the bad guys. All I know is the Tea Party sold out and let people like Bachmann be their darlings.
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BluePhoenixx Featured By Owner Jul 2, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
There's a reason why the OWS people are painted as the bad guys.. Because they break the laws, they shit and piss on cop cars, bleed, piss, and shit on vendors, rape, litter, steal... do I really need to go on? All you people have against the Tea Party is undocumented accusations about racism. Put your head on straight.
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PurplePhoneixStar Featured By Owner Jul 2, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Did you read what I posted? And Occupy has more than the Tea Party. Mathematics tells you that many angry people in one spot would end up badly. Also I know of one tea partier who kicked a woman who didn't agree with him and said the reason he didn't bend down and hit her was he had back problems.
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BluePhoenixx Featured By Owner Jul 3, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Yes I read what you posted. Did you even read my response? If you want to talk about math, at the time I made this picture, occupy had only been around for a month which was 32 times shorter than the Tea Party. If the Tea Party was just as bad, mathematically, they should have had 32,000 arrests just to be on par. You can't use the excuse that it's just the numbers and it's bound to happen. It says a lot when even til this day the Tea Party hasn't had one arrest. Even if they racked up 100 by now, that's only one tenth of what OWS had in its FIRST MONTH... Not to mention all of the arrests since I made this. And all you have is is a he said she said story about a kick? Really? you think that compares? Come back to me when the Tea Party needs rape free zones or when the Tea Party decides to start using public and private property as their toilets.
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elysiandroptrooper Featured By Owner Dec 15, 2011  Hobbyist Writer
Isn't pot supposed to make you docile pot heads shouldn't be all rioting unless they run out of Captain Crunch right?
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BluePhoenixx Featured By Owner Dec 16, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
I think you found the key to solving this problem. You figured out the reason why they are so upset and what they actually want... GET THESE GUYS SOME CAPTAIN CRUNCH DAMN IT!!!
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elysiandroptrooper Featured By Owner Dec 16, 2011  Hobbyist Writer
I'm not a T-party member but at least they don't start fucking riots every where they go. As for captain crunch take it from my cold dead hands
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FishieLPKaulitz8 Featured By Owner Feb 14, 2012  Student
OWS people don't start the riots. The police officers who are posing as protesters are starting the riots and are destroying property. I even have a PICTURE of a police officer smashing the window of a car! In fact, in Oakland on January 28th, City Hall was left unlocked and security was nowhere to be found near the building. Protesters were shocked to find it open. They took the flag from inside and brought it out (to burn, which I don't agree with). The media then told you that they broke the windows and destroyed the inside, but livestreams that I had been watching show that they did no such thing. They were framed so that the American public will be turned against them and will have you believe that most are jobless (when most DO have jobs, but they have two to four jobs just to make ends meet) because the government can control what you think through the media. Stop believing what the mainstream tells you and wake up. Please.
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BluePhoenixx Featured By Owner Dec 17, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Me neither.. But I do support them. But if Captain Crunch will get these Occupy losers out of the roads and out of the way of productive citizens, I'll gladly give them all of my boxes.
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elysiandroptrooper Featured By Owner Dec 17, 2011  Hobbyist Writer
beats the hand outs obama gave the banks. Student loans are so high in intrest merely because the banks want to Obama back the money he gave them after they did all those stupid high risk loans. I'll stop there before we hit the cash for clunkers rant
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BluePhoenixx Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
That's true... they don't need anything handed to them. They don't deserve anything after wasting so much of the tax payers' dollars.
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elysiandroptrooper Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2011  Hobbyist Writer
Well it gives the cops something to do I guess
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BluePhoenixx Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Yes... since they don't have their hands full with criminals... As if OWS cares about that... Or anything besides themselves for that matter.
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Floyd1046 Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2011
The Hippies and Fags on the left are really giving their Cause and Party a good name aren't they?
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BluePhoenixx Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
If by a "good name" you mean a name that accurately represents the left.. You're absolutely right.
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Floyd1046 Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2011
Yeah I do. I can't wait to see what these stupid stoner hippies do next.
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Skyfire1129 Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2011
And, Just out of curiosity, who funded the "study" that showed Fox as a 4-5 on a scale of 1-10, 10 being the most liberal?
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BluePhoenixx Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
The was study done by the Center for Media and Public Affairs which is a nonprofit, nonpartisan organization in Washington DC. They receive funding from both sides of the aisle and have been cited by both liberals and conservatives.
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Skyfire1129 Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2011
This isn't about good guys or bad guys. What is hilarious is the fact that you helped prove a point contrary to your belief. The government is moving in on the people who are fighting to change the inequality and corruption in our nation's leadership.

There are no Tea Party arrests because the legislator's pockets aren't threatened by them. As soon as there's a threat to the wealthy leaders of our nation, police are brought in to Violently break up Peaceful protests. And, more importantly, protect their wallets.

Is it that hard to see? "In the House, 23 Republicans and 10 Democrats are in the 1% [of the wealthiest people in the nation], while in the Senate Democrats edge out Republican one percenters 13-11." [link]

There's nothing wrong with a person becoming successful and wealthy. There is something wrong when the government is being controlled by corporations and lawmakers looking to increase their personal wealth at the expense of an ENTIRE nation of people. This isn't Red vs Blue, it's Green vs. Everyone else.
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BluePhoenixx Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
I understand your point and I understand why you are paranoid about the people in power. I'm not totally convinced that they have our best interest at heart either. However, I'm not going to pretend that the only reason why OWS people are being arrested is because the wealthy feel threatened. When you do illegal things, you get arrested, that't the bottom line. The Tea Party didn't do anything illegal and have a respect for law.

Let's pretend for a second that you are right and that the government is out to get the OWS people. If OWS had the same respect for law, the police might arrest a couple without cause but they would see that they need to try another approach because the people who have their heads on straight would see this and would support the movement. IF you were right, I'm sure they would be a lot smarter about it and would squash the movement in smarter ways. But the fact of the matter is, the OWS people are looking for opportunities to be arrested and make a scene while all of their friends stand by recording it.

Just because a movement has over a thousand arrests, that doesn't mean that they are the victims or that they are the good guys fighting against the authority that's keeping them down. This isn't a Ghandi-esque movement of civil disobedience like people try to make it seem.
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RhetoricHaystack Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2011  Professional General Artist
conservatives are the bad guys. sorry.
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Mike-the-cat Featured By Owner Sep 30, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Nice rebuttal. :iconimhappyplz:
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BluePhoenixx Featured By Owner Sep 30, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Right? Very well thought out and carefully worded to showcase the supreme liberal intellect...
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VerbotenerGott Featured By Owner Nov 4, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Tea Partiers also carry guns to their rallies.

Occupiers don't.

And now I look at this image...Hm...SOMETHING just doesn't match up here...
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BluePhoenixx Featured By Owner Nov 4, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
"Tea Partiers also carry guns to their rallies."

So? Last time I checked, it's their legal and CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT to do so. You don't know if nobody brings guns to OWS. With all of the rape, robbery, and violence, legal activity like carrying a gun would be the least of their worries. Keep crying about guns though.
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VerbotenerGott Featured By Owner Nov 7, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
I'm not crying about the guns themselves, actually. But doesn't there seem to be something interesting about unarmed, largely non-violent people being arrested while another group with the exact same level of violence is not arrested?

Where are you getting most of your information about OWS? I'm not criticizing at all, I'm really genuinely curious--Have you been down to the actual protests yourself? I've been to numerous cities, and I haven't encountered a single case of violence, rape, or robbery.

The only incidences where I've heard of some violence is in Oakland--and Oakland is just a violent city in general, I know from experience. There's going to be some people who just want to jump on the bandwagon, and cause drama and violence. But the vast majority of people I've encountered have been entirely peaceful--angry and frustrated, but nonetheless peaceful, and mature.
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BluePhoenixx Featured By Owner Nov 7, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
"Unarmed"? Possibly. "Largely non-violent?" Definitely not... and not just in Oakland. I find it more interesting that people choose to ignore the fact that illegal activity is going on and that is the reason why there have been so many arrests. However, I do have to say that I'm not sure which group you're referring to when you said, "another group with the exact same level of violence is not arrested..." The Tea Party? The police? The Lollypop Guild?

I'm getting my information from firsthand experience in a couple cities, from pictures of people caught in the act, from videos of people describing the things they are experiencing and witnessing for themselves in other cities, from the tv news, from printed news, and from internet news outlets. Some biased but mostly unbiased or even biased in the opposite direction.

I'm happy to admit that the those awful events don't happen more often than not. But just because you haven't experienced it, that doesn't mean that it isn't happening. I've never experienced a shred of racism at Tea Party events, in fact I've experienced the opposite, but I'm not going to pretend that there haven't been a couple jack asses with racist signs. However, I'd much rather have a few racists than have a few rapists a few thieves a few sexual molesters and a man who shits on cop cars.
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VerbotenerGott Featured By Owner Nov 7, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
The entire movement is aiming to get corporate money out of politics, and so as the movement gains momentum, politicians are pushing mayors to squash the protests. The police presence has less to do with the behavior of the protestors, than it does with the nature of the entire protest itself. Camps have been raided by the police for simply existing (as opposed to because of violence or crime)--and so of course this is going to cause tension and frustration on the protestors' behalf. If the Tea Party was being targeted by police force as much as OWS simply because of its nature, then I guarantee the arrest rates would be similar.


And I would say that greatest difference of that nature is the difference between state and federal frustration. From what I've gathered, the Tea Party seems to be angry with strictly the federal government--whereas OWS wants change at both the state and federal level. And wealthy governors who profit from coporate donations don't like that...So they pressure mayors to remove the protestors. I know this is specifically true in New York. Govornor Cuomo and Mayor Jennings of Albany planned on raiding Occupy Albany. The DA and police chief, after seeing the true, peaceful nature of the protest, refused.

I wonder how many of the 992 listed in this image actually committed violent acts. If you watch raw footage of the protests, you can see police officers grabbing people left and right, without instigation. Granted, there are a few instigators, but certainly not in scale with the amount of peaceful people arrested.
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godmaschine Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2011
you cannot stay on properties if the owner of the property tell you to leave. that is what ows continually does, and that is very illegal. tea party does not do that, because tea party does not really camp out.

so yes they are doing illegal acts, whether violent or not is irrelevant to arrest. one does not commit violence when they lift $5000 from a shopfront after all.

thievery and rapists, ahhh fun~
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BluePhoenixx Featured By Owner Jan 25, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Amen. Well said.
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godmaschine Featured By Owner Jan 25, 2012
no problem yo.
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Lunarseed Featured By Owner Nov 1, 2011
Well one of them argues for against capitalism and the other argues for. And America is a capitalist state. So I'll just GUESS why there has been more arrests from that side.

The USA just dismissing the lower classes and their grievances will be the end of that nation. A nation against its own people cannot last.
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BluePhoenixx Featured By Owner Nov 1, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
I don't know where you're from, but here in the United States, people can protest about whatever they want without having to worry about the state arresting them for it. It's in the constitution and there would be hell to pay if our constitutional rights were violated. The reason why there are more arrests is because there is so much illegal activity. Well over 1000 arrests now. Liberals like to romanticize OWS like it's a "V for Vendetta"-esque movement where the government is out to get them, but that couldn't be further from the truth. The government is extremely liberal (besides the newly elected congress which only makes up half of one third of the power the government has) so if the government were out to get anyone, it would be the Tea Party. The Tea Party protests against the government while OWS doesn't even know what the hell they're protesting. One person is protesting Capitalism, another is protesting the war, and another is protesting grilled cheese sandwiches. There's no reason for the government to target OWS.. trust me.
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Sheepy94 Featured By Owner Oct 31, 2011  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Those who aren't in their masters favor are the ones persecuted.
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